The DIRT on Therapy – Mary F. McDonough & Martyn J. Clark

Shame and guilt can wreak havoc in relationships, families, constellations. Much therapy ends up being...

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Shame and guilt can wreak havoc in relationships, families, constellations. Much therapy ends up being avoidant of deep-seated shame and guilt, simply because it’s really hard to deal with and involves really deep levels of introspection. Over the 18 years of our relationship, we have dug very deeply into our familial guilt and shame. What we thought was a strong similarity – our strict religious upbringing – became an enormous barrier to intimate connection that we have had to face up to as individuals, as practitioners, and as a couple.

DIRT, our latest book, has been 18 years in the making. It is a collection of fragments: evocative images, writing, text messages, email, poetry, prose, and diary entries about sex and guilt, shame, love, and what it means to really be alive. It's available from www.gadflyeditions.com or direct from Amazon and other retailers.

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Dirt – Mary F. McDonough & Martyn J. Clark - (November 2015)

We created DIRT as a creative invitation to explore intimacy. In it, we have been unflinchingly honest about the joys, the frictions, the tensions, the peace, the wholeness that can only be found through knowing and being known. DIRT is a collection of fragments: evocative images, writing, text messages, email, poetry, prose, and diary entries about sex and guilt, shame, love, and what it means to be alive, that will leave you pondering your own relationship to intimacy. DIRT is available to purchase through Amazon or direct from GADFLY.

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The DIRT on Therapy – Mary F. McDonough & Martyn J. Clark
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Martyn J. Clark

I am an experienced creative leadership consultant and executive coach with 13 years of experience working at board level in FTSE 100 companies.

Mary F. McDonough

I am a writer, editor, therapist, and creativity/communication consultant. I’m a PhD candidate in Creative Writing at the University of Strathclyde. I have been writing poetry since age 7 and telling stories for even longer.